Etsy Forums Hilarity: all aboard the DumBuns Express! Seriously, are Etsy's vintage sellers all senile or something?

OMG, the stupid is out in force today!

If you haven't read them, check out my previous posts here and here and earlier today  And then read this Bugs thread:  Vintage Category  Here's the original post:

There is currently no drop down list when the vintage category at the top of the page is 'hovered' over. Other titles seem to be functioning correctly.
Also other shops are reporting that this category has been removed altogether.
Could you please explain what is going on with the vintage category.
Thank you.

The drop down detailed menu has been missing at the Vintage link for a year now!  The links at the top of every Etsy page are not "categories" -- they are what the old Browse pages (that looked like pin boards) were, but arranged like SEARCH results.  The items on those pages are curated, which means selected by Etsy staff.  Oh, and Etsy has not had a "vintage category" since like 2012.  Where have you dumbuns been hiding?


And another Clueless Express pulls into the Etsy Forums station:  Etsy, Please Put Vintage Back as a Drop Down  The drop down menu at the Vintage link was removed in September 2017, a year ago.  Duh?

Vintage sellers on Etsy start social media campaign -- as always, shoppers beware!

Vintage listings are a small portion of the millions of active listings on Etsy:  just 17.5 percent.  This includes all the listings where the seller backdated an item for promotional visibility ("vintage handmade") and supplies listed as "vintage supply" whether or not the item is 20 years old.  Also included are millions of brand new items deceptively listed as "vintage" because that is the safest way to resell new products on Etsy.  I would guess that about 40 percent of all items listed as vintage, aren't.  And maybe half of all Etsy shops selling items listed as "vintage" are intentionally deceptive sellers.

More than 3 million items on Etsy are listed in two or three categories. as

• handmade supply
• vintage supply
• vintage handmade
• vintage handmade supply

If 1 million of the multi-category listings involve "vintage" -- even though they are actually not 20+ years old -- subtracting those 1 million items from the current Vintage listings count reduces the percentage of Vintage listings on Etsy to just 15 percent of all items listed.  If 40 percent of those are actually newer than 20 years old, authentic Vintage items listed on Etsy could be less than 10 percent of all items listed!  

This is just my guesstimate.  I have no way to know for certain how many listings on Etsy sell authentic Vintage items.  For comparison, when Etsy had an actual Vintage Category -- and before the listing process allowed deceptive sellers to claim their craft projects were "vintage handmade" -- Vintage listings on the site made up between 24 and 27 percent of the total active listings on the site, depending on the day.  At that point in time, Marketplace Integrity still removed listings for items less than 20 years old if they were reported with documenting links -- something that rarely happens now.  

Read the Forums thread Etsy Sells Vintage - Social Media Campaign  Will post links to non-vintage sellers being promoted by mendacious Etsygirls as they appear on various sites.