Etsy fake vintage reseller 20thcenturydesignsny has a second undisclosed Etsy shop Goodtimesvtg that also resells new items as vintage #etsysellsvintage

Etsy long term reseller 20thcenturydesignsny has another -- undisclosed -- Etsy shop Goodtimesvtg  Etsy sellers are supposed to include links to ALL the shops they own on their Etsy user Profile -- which this deceptive seller does not.

I discovered the two shops were the same seller because they have some of the same (supposedly) vintage items listed in both shops, and the two shops have favorited many of each other's items.  Oh, and I recognized this pair of Chinese import earrings from this decade as having been listed originally by 20thcenturydesignsny.  Recognized, because who could forget these photos?

Seller claims these are "Vintage from before 2000" but they are contemporary, and you can still purchase them new on AliExpress for a dollar and change


Let's have a look at some of the items Goodtimesvtg lists as "vintage", along with sources to buy for less in case you really want any of these items.  Remember:  don't let a mendacious Etsy reseller rip you off!


Goodtimesvtg says this resin family sculpture on a wooden base is both "Mid century" and "Vintage from the 1980s".  Since the 1980s are not the "mid" of any Century, one of these claims can't be true.  Actually, both of them are deceptive:  this is a contemporary product, from the early 21st Century.

Buy the same item on Amazon for less than $15, compared to the $35 price in Goodtimesvtg's shop.


This Chinese knock-off of a Scandinavian Modern ceiling lamp is priced at $249, and is pretending to be "Vintage from the 1970s".

The same lamp was featured in this blog on April 18, 2019 as sold by her other shop 20thcenturydesignsny  It's still for sale in both shops, but the price in the 20thcenturydesignsny listing has been increased to $273!  Current price on Amazon is $85.99; many listings on eBay under $100.


With the discovery of the second shop, following the mendacious antics of this long time reseller has become twice as amusing.

Etsy long term fake vintage reseller 20thcenturydesignsny is still at it: back dating new products and misrepresenting them to shoppers as "vintage" #etsysellsvintage

Last featured here in July 2018 Etsy long term reseller of fake vintage (that is, contemporary mass made products) 20thcenturydesignsny is still at it.  Her gimmick is to list all of the brand new products as "mid century" and then apply fake dates to the items -- sometimes attributing the same item to more than one decade.  The shop is an amazing display of Etsyverse mendacity in action, and is one more reason why friends don't encourage friends to shop for vintage on Etsy.

Let's have a look at some of the brand new "vintage" currently listed in the shop.


Listed as "Vintage from before 2000" this "melting" shelf clock inspired by Dali has been sold multiple times (I counted 8 in the shop's Sold Items Gallery) by 20thcenturydesignny.  It is a 21st Century product, and easily found for sale NEW online.  Seller says it's "in perfect condition" (and why should a brand new product not be?), and it's priced at $35.

One of the dumbuns who purchased, and then reviewed, this product says it is "average priced".  But if you shop around you can find it easily for under $20  on Amazon on DHGate and of course on eBay  Take a look online, and be amazed at all the merchants selling it -- another glowing example of "unique" "vintage" listed on Etsy.


Another piece of "AliExpress Vintage" is this multi color ball coatrack which is, again, widely sold all over the web.  The seller titled it "mid century modern", and backdated it into "Vintage from the 1980s".  Priced at $65.

You can buy one for $40 and change on Amazon or Home Depot   Wholesale from a Chinese manufacturer here  Note that deceptive seller 20thcenturydesignsny borrowed the photo above from her wholesale source.  Not from the 1980s!


Another listing in the shop using a thumbnail photo from the manufactured is this Sterling and Noble pink neon wall clock that the seller (again) calls "mid century" and deceptively attributes to the 1980s (which was way after the "mid" 20th Century, just sayin') as well as being a "reproduction from the 1970s".  Remember that Etsy resellers don't simply lie -- they lie extravagantly.  Priced at $85.

Available from multiple eBay listings at less than half the price.  Similarly priced from multiple sellers on Amazon  But do feel free to pay the Etsy "stupid tax" and buy it from 20thcenturydesignsny.


More!  Here's another product listed with photos "borrowed" from the Chinese manufacturer:  a cheapie contemporary copy of a Scandinavian Modern hanging lamp back dated by this lying sack of a reseller to the 1980s.  Priced at $249!

Get it for about $100 on Amazon where various sellers have it listed in several color options.  Lots of listings on eBay


Finally, here's a contemporary bib necklace manufactured in China in this decade, but pretending to be "vintage from the 1980s".  Priced at $29.  Photo below belongs to the manufacturer.

Available from this merchant on DHGate in a choice of 5 colors, priced at less than $7.  Was first listed for sale on Amazon in 2014; get it for under $10 (lots of less than glowing reviews -- it's cheapie junque).  Available in 3 color options, priced at less than $5 on AliExpress

Many more contemporary products listed in the shop with fake dating.

Etsy fake vintage reseller shop DREAMWEAVER4U2 is at it again: her 1980s vintage is available factory fresh from China #etsysellsvintage

Last featured in this blog in December 2018 Etsy long term reseller DREAMWEAVER4U2 is once again listing factory fresh Chinese import items as "vintage" in her shop.

Check out this lace up front halter top the seller claims is "dead stock" "club wear" found in "storage".  Listed as a "vintage item from the 1980s", it is offered in 2 color choices, 2 units in stock, priced at $22.

Once again, DREAMWEAVER4U2 is deceptive about the sizing, which is based on the Asian market and sized much smaller than clothing manufactured for retail in the USA.  The description says "One size will fit Medium to Large", but if you don't check out listings for this item sold elsewhere online you are in for a surprise!

Listed on Amazon for just $4.09, the available sizes are listed as 4, 6, and 8.  The only customer review notes that the black version is "slightly see through".  And this item was first listed for sale on Amazon in January 2018 -- not the same thing as 1980s dead stock vintage.

Listed on eBay by a Chinese seller in black, priced at $4.66 (FREE shipping).  The size chart in the listing once again shows US equivalent sizes as 4, 6, and 8.

The white version is listed here on AliExpress priced at $5.40.


As always, when shopping on Etsy it pays to comparison shop, unless you want a deceptive reseller to rip you off?

Etsy long term reseller DREAMWEAVER4U2 still listing new items mass manufactured in China as "vintage" #etsysellsvintage

Most recently featured here in September Etsy long term reseller DREAMWEAVER4U2 is at it again:  listing contemporary Chinese jewelry and accessories in her shop as "vintage".

Just listed yesterday is this bronze alloy metal peacock hair clip with plastic rhinestones that was being (re)sold by dozens of Etsy shops earlier in this decade.  Priced at $9, and listed as a "vintage" item.

It's still available wholesale from Chinese merchants!  Get it here on AliExpress, priced at just $1.55 with FREE shipping.   A merchant on DHGate is selling them in lots of 100 units, priced at $1 per unit -- and, again, FREE shipping.  It sold out on Wish dot com were it was priced at $2.

If you like this piece, buy one -- but don't let this Etsy reseller of fake handmade and brand new vintage rip you off!

UPDATE DECEMBER 16:  a year later, and this item is again active in DREAMWEAVER4U2's shop.  Now priced at an amazing $22!  Where to get if for less:

•  on AliExpress for just 92 cents
•  from Heartfelt Delights for $2.99
•  on Amazon for $2.53
•  from Glory's House for $4.99

It is NOT "Vintage from the 1980s", as it is currently listed.  It is contemporary, manufactured in China.  

Etsy Forums Follies: faux vintage reseller AttiCuties starts another self-promotional thread #etsysellsvintage

She's still at it!  AttiCuties started another self-promotional thread in the Etsy Forums today:  Adding Age in the Title -- Turn Off? Or Enticement?  The amusement factor here is that AttiCuties has been featured numerous times in my blogs for fake-dating newer collectibles that are less than 20 years old -- some pushed back 60+ years!  To see what I mean, check out my previous posts about this seller:

• February 2017 published in this blog
• April 2018 published in LDW Calls Out Fake Shaming Etsy and Its Resellers
• May 2017 also published in LDW Calls Out

Note that in today's Forums thread, a few comments mention a need to know the date of an item to find out if it is actually "vintage":  20+ years old, according to Etsy's guidelines.  

I have no idea why, but there are Vintage sellers on Etsy whose shops are almost all authentic Vintage items, but for some reason (unknown to me) they have to add in 10-25 percent newer pieces and fake date them in the listings.  Why bother?  Most of these items are small in size, and could be wrapped and stored in a single bin marked "future vintage" or something like that.  Or just sold on eBay. 

Of course, AttiCuties is still listing 21st Century items in her shop and backdating them.  Let's have a look at some of her newest fauxtiques!

This Queen of Chocolate pillow is pretending to be a "vintage" "Southwest find".  But it's not "vintage" -- it can't be any older than circa 2001, and is likely much newer.  Note the manufacturer's tag in the photo that clearly shows the letters ADI.

ADI was a supplier of homewares to institutions, according to this article from 2004 in Home Textiles Today  The article mentions that ADI moved into the home fashions business 3 years ago (2004 minus 3 = 2001) with various product lines including "decorative pillows".  Not Vintage.

Another item pretending to be "vintage" is this small ceramic plaque by Sandra Magsamen for Dept 56  Sandra did not start licensing her work until 1997, which means some items from various brands might be barely 20 years old today.  But this item is newer.  A version you can have personalized is currently being made, and sold at mega big box retailers like WAL-MART.  A knock-off is for sale on the Alibaba site.

The photo above is the only one included in the listing, which is unfortunate because the reverse side shows the designer's signature, the Dept. 56 branding info, manufacturing location, and copyright date: 2005!  Shown in this eBay listing for the same item by an honest seller who listed it as "used".

The plaque can't be Vintage until 2025.  Oops.

This RV themed 9 X 12 pillow is pretending to be "vintage" and "machine stitched in the 1990s".  Uh huh.

You can buy it wholesale from Simply Home or retail on Amazon for less than AttiCuties is asking for her used (not Vintage!) version.

This teddy bear ring bearer pillow by S. Lee Jaeger was supposedly acquired "many years ago" by a bride (see Description), but the photo showing the label on the reverse shows no copyright date.  However, it does show email and Blogger addresses which indicate the label is less than 20 years old -- if you know how old Blogger is.

The Blogger address on the label shows the pillow in a post dated February 2011 -- 7 years ago!

Fake dated back to the 1970s, this Homer Laughlin Fiesta Ware Chartreuse Mug is clearly not the original chartreuse color, nor is it the original design used for Fiesta Ware mugs.  The bottom mark, the color, the shape -- and the price! -- all show that this is a 21st Century product, not something "from the 1970s".  Pants.  On.  Fire.  

For you Fiesta fans out there, the original chartreuse was made during the 1950s.  The Fiesta made in the 1970s were the Ironstone pieces in three earthy colors popular at the time.  New chartreuse was made 1997-99, so this item might be Vintage (barely), but this mendacious seller is trying to pass it off as the original.  CAVEAT EMPTOR!

This cross pendant necklace might be Vintage, but the mendacious AttiCuties has back-dated it to the 1980s.  One look at the clasp and sellers who know Vintage jewelry can see it dates from the 1990s, at the earliest.

For jewelry artisans and manufacturers during the 1980s, lobster (as shown above) was NOT on the materials "menu".

AttiCuties claims that this Cindy Shamp pillow is 20+ years old.

But you can buy it brand new here for less than AttiCuties is asking for a used one.

In one of her listings with "1990s" at the beginning of the title, AttiCuties claims this Lillian Rose wedding ring pillow is 20+ years old.

But that looks like at date 2010 on the label in the photo above.  

AttiCuties always represents herself in the Etsy Forums as being very conscientious about researching and dating her Vintage items.  Like this New Millennium commemorative banknote from New Zealand which was issued....wait for it...in 2000.

As documented on this website with all kinds of info about New Zealand

So there you have it:  what AttiCuties means by "adding age".  

Etsy reseller DREAMWEAVER4U2 whines in the Forums: nabbed trying to resell counterfeit Hello Kitty -- old post, updated! #etsysellsvintage

ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN DECEMBER 2016, 18 MONTHS AGO

Etsy shop DREAMWEAVER4U2 sells mostly authentic vintage items, along with some actual handmade pieces.  She also sells brand new Asian import products she pretends are "vintage", or even "handmade".  Since most of her mendacious listings involve faking vintage, I decided to post this one here.  DREAMWEAVER4U2 was previously called out for reselling a new ring available wholesale on AliExpress in July 2016 on my other blog, Fake Shaming Etsy and Its Resellers -- LDW Calls Out

This morning a disorganized ranting post from her appeared in the Etsy Forums:  The only one to receive an upsetting Christmas Gift?  Here's the text, just in case the Forum Mods return from their holiday weekend in a redacting mood:

First a question. If you were given a little cute but not great bracelet as a gift and had no interest in ever wearing it would the wise thing to do be to list it for sale in your shop or throw it in the garbage ? .......Did you know by listing it as a re-sale item it just infringed on the Intellectual Property thing? A used pre-owned and no name on it had laws only choosen sellers could sell their mass produced in factories item OR if that 1 unwanted item was listed and somehow found out of over 19,000 other same items and sent an attorney after that 1 small person with the 1 small used item with the charge of Infrigement of Intellectual Property.
...........I am the unlucky person doing the crime of selling a used cheap may I add bracelet.............19,000 Hello Kitty items on etsy.......how many more on ebay, amazon, eoier and on and on.........are all shows, flea markets, garage sales, auction sites and collectible sites going to be searched for the Kitty items of any type..........no homemade allowed...just the factory made .....and 19,000 are here just here......why would a company be so tacky to insist on only their bracelet or items be sold after paying them for the ability to sell to make them money when the crafty folks and artists can put the Kitty name out there so the company can make more money rather than possible law suits for daring to list a used Kitty item just 1...........sad times....greed times. Be careful all you folks with your cute Bow Ties, Art, Painted Cups and so many cute ideas...you are walking on a razor edge. .....Am I wrong feeling this way?

You have to read through the entire thread to appreciate how revealing it is about how mendacity, ignorance, and sense of entitlement are ingrained in Etsy culture.  Astonishingly, a few community members actually know that you can't resell products that are unlicensed use of IP, even if those products are vintage or supplies.  However, most of the comments were exploring the possibility that DREAMWEAVER4U2 had done nothing wrong!

Of course, it being the Etsy Forums, no one would have dared comment about the huge percentage (about 50%) of her recent sales being brand new mass made products imported from China, but pretending to be "vintage".  Mostly likely because no one participating in the thread looked at her shop, or recent sales.  Or, even if they looked, they didn't recognize the items as new.  Or, maybe they realized they could be "perma-muted" (banned from the Etsy Forums) for mentioning the reselling elephant in the room.

DREAMWEAVER4U2 is what the Etsy Community calls a "Long Term Reseller".  You can look through her sold items gallery, and go back to the very first 50 or so items sold by the shop, and see reseller products there.  No wonder she felt slighted when Etsy dared to remove a listing from her shop for IP infringement -- she's had a free pass to violate Etsy's TOS and Seller Guidelines for years!


THIS ETSY SHOP IS STILL RESELLING NEW CHINESE IMPORT PRODUCTS AS "VINTAGE" 18 MONTHS LATER!

Yup.  It's June 2018 as I type, and DREAMWEAVER4U2 is still listing brand new, mass manufactured, products in her shop as either "handmade" or "vintage".  I've featured some of her reseller listings in my other blog in February 2018 and later in May 2018  I've decided to continue with the vintage side of this seller's mendacity here.  Shoppers for vintage items on Etsy need to be aware that even a shop like DREAMWEAVER4U2 that has actual vintage items listed for sale can be getting her fraud on in the same shop.  Check it out!


Pretending to be "vintage" is this contemporary women's tunic priced at $13.  The seller mendaciously describes it as "new never worn store stock" but anyone can buy it "new never worn" from China.

The photo in the listing (shown above) belongs to the manufacturer.  According to this merchant on AliExpress it dates from 2014, and is sold by them in 3 color choices and a range of 4 sizes.  All priced at $8.40, including free shipping from China.  Here it is retail priced (on sale), listed with a helpful chart that converts Chinese letter sizes to US and EU sizes (FYI a Chinese 3X is a US 14).  This eBay seller from Hong Kong has it in sizes up to Chinese 4X priced at $3.99 plus $4.99 for shipping.  Almost 7,000 units have been sold from that eBay listing.  More online sellers for this item, too numerous to include here.  Needless to say, not "vintage"?


Here's a listing that pegs my Reseller Mendacity Meter, for a pair of fingerless gloves fake dated to the 1980s  Priced at $12, with 2 units in stock.  DREAMWEAVER4U2 claims in her Description that the gloves are "quality made never worn stock from a Daytona Beach BIKER SHOP" "closed since the 1990's (sic)".  And that they "look and feel like quality leather".

And here are the same gloves, brand new and priced at just $1.96, from a Chinese eBay seller.  Oh, and they are NOT real leather.  Which totally gives away that these gloves were never sold to bikers -- I mean, as if!  And this super discounted site is selling the pair for just a penny.  Brand new, not 30+ years old.


Another fake "vintage" item is this women's tunic with front print priced at $9.  The mendacious shop owner claims that this is a "New Never worn Closed Store Stock item", but of course you can buy it just plain NEW from various merchants around the globe, or have it manufactured for you by merchants on Alibaba.

Here is the same tunic shirt listed in a boutique in the UK offered in sizes S thru XXXL (Chinese) -- their listing has additional manufacturer's photos, along with the one used on Etsy (above).  This seller is in Canada.  Another seller in the UK  This New Zealand seller has 181 units in stock.  Not vintage.


More!  These fishnet fabric fingerless gloves are pretending to be "vintage" and "never worn from a closed Boutique", priced at $15 with 3 pair in stock.

This Chinese eBay seller has these gloves in your choice of 11 different colors, priced at just 99 cents (free shipping, too).  Almost 200 units have been sold through that listing.



Another item pretending to be "vintage" is this armor ring offered in 2 metal finish colors, 4 units in stock.

It's brand new, of course, and the photo above was borrowed from the Chinese manufacturer.  Get it in brass finish for just $1.37 (free shipping) from this merchant on AliExpress  Another AliExpress merchant has the ring in your choice of 3 metal finishes, priced at $1.35 (free shipping).  Not vintage, as if you didn't know that.



Another amusing fake vintage item is this peace symbol mood ring which the seller has backdated to the 1970s.  Her description says it is "vintage circa 1960-1970" which is impossible.  By the time mood rings were a fad, in the mid 1970s, peace symbol jewelry was no longer a thing.  The two trends were not contemporaneous.  The original mood rings were sized (not adjustable).  I bought mine at the jewelry counter in a department store; it was sterling silver, not base metal alloy.  Priced at $12, 3 units in stock.

I am documenting this item with multiple images because this contemporary ring has already pretty much vanished from the web (dates from this decade).  Here's another image showing a similar style:

This manufacturer on Alibaba claims they will make a variety of mood rings to order, including the one sold by DREAMWEAVER4U2.  The listing can be dated from the other rings shown, including an owl and a mustache.  Not brand new, but not vintage, either.  Definitely not 1960s-70s.

Will add more fake vintage items from this seller as the are activated in the shop.


UPDATE JUNE 14:  DREAMWEAVER4U2 is still adding fake "vintage" items to her shop.  This 15 pc miniature tea set by Odoria is pretending to be "vintage", 2 units in stock (dead giveaway this is a brand new item), and priced at $13.00.

Buy it brand new on AliExpress for less than $7 (free shipping from China).  Many other patterns available.

Some of the most relevant items in Etsy search for Vintage are actually brand new: Early February 2017

This was a recurring theme post in my other blog about mendacious Etsy, Fake Shaming Etsy and Its Resellers , and I intend to continue with it here.  By way of introduction, Etsy encourages certain select resellers to list their mass manufactured products as "vintage" rather than "handmade", for several reasons.  First, because the sale of the same product over and over again has been heavily promoted by Etsy's SEARCH algorithm since circa 2011 as more relevant, but authentic vintage items are mostly sold as one-offs by Etsy sellers.  Second, anything that dilutes the authenticity of Vintage on the site is seen as a plus:  the majority of the Etsy community from management, to the staff, to the sellers, know little to nothing about Vintage and, based on their lack of knowledge, have decided they don't like it.  Finally, any listings for products mass manufactured in an Asian factory are given an extra warm welcome by Etsy corporate.  Over the last handful of years, the increasing presence of brand new products pretending to be "vintage" has gradually led to the closing of authentic vintage shops selling similar merchandise.

I personally would guesstimate that about 40 percent of items listed on Etsy as "vintage", aren't.  This series of posts will show you why.

February 09, 2017

Pier Etsy Platform (resellers of native craft imports as either handmade or vintage) shop CultureCross has one of today's most relevant listings on Etsy in a search for all Vintage items.  This brand new, mass produced, Tibet silver and dyed Howlite bracelet has been reviewed, vetted, and approved by Etsy's mendacious Marketplace Integrity Team as a proper "vintage" listing. 

Listed as "Southwestern" turquoise jewelry, it is an Asian design with no turquoise or silver used to make it.  It's Tibet silver (an alloy) and Howlite stone dyed a fakey looking turquoise color.  The Overview information reveals that it isn't turquoise...

Overview

• Vintage item
• Materials: silver, brass, howlite turquoise
• Ships worldwide from United States
• Feedback: 1478 reviews
• Favorited by: 534 people

...but that isn't searchable.  The title and tags falsely state this to be a vintage turquoise bracelet.  Priced at a laughable $25.00, you can buy the same bracelet for just $4.19 on Ali Express with free shipping.  Need I mention that many more than one dumb bunny Etsygirl has purchased this item on Etsy?  Which is why it has become ultra-relevant in search results.

February 10, 2017

Another fauxtiques reseller on the Pier Etsy platform is CuteMatryoshka who lists newly made Russian craft items as "vintage".  Open for just over 2 years now, the shop has sold nearly 800 items -- this is a long term reseller.  Today one of the most relevant items in a search for all vintage on Etsy is this brand new hen with chicks painted wooden doll set -- 10 units in stock, all pretending to be "vintage".

For sale at Russian Crafts using the same photos, description and price, without any mention of it being "vintage".  This deception is reserved for mendacious Etsy, whose dim bulb employees working for the Marketplace Integrity Team can't see the shop's tag line which clearly states:

vintage style Russian dolls

The seller's About Page suggests she is the artist who handpaints these items...

A few years ago I had period of my life when I had enough free time. The friend of mine gave me idea to paint nesting dolls and gave me a lesson how to do it. I never painted before and never thought that I could create anything interesting. From the very first time I was fallen in love with it and soon I painted more or less good matryoshka dolls.

... so why are they all listed as "vintage"?  One of the many mysteries of the mendacious Etsyverse!


Since a few Ty Beanie Babies are now 20 years old, all Ty Beanie Babies are now considered "vintage" in the mendacious Etsyverse.  Which is why Etsy shop GertrudesVintage can list one introduced in the 21st Century for sale on Etsy.  One of the most relevant items today in a search for all Vintage on Etsy is Sonnet the Dog who was sold for about six months in 2003-04 as a Valentine's Day themed gift item.

Visit the shop for more newer Beanies pretending to be "vintage"!  Beanie Babies are super easy to date online; several sites have comprehensive listings including photos, descriptions, introduction and retirement dates.  There is no way a seller can't know the actual age of these collectibles, outside the Etsyverse, that is.